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PS4 vs. Xbox One - The Ultimate Showdown!!!

From what I have been reading lately it seems as if the PS4 is doing a lot better than the Xbox one. I have also heard that the PS4 offers a lot more than the Xbox one. I don't own any of the consoles but I do plan to get them both because that is something that I have always done. I always preferred my Xbox 360 but I still liked my PS3. I will get them both because the Xbox one will have exclusives that I want to play and the PS4 will have exclusives that I want to play and I simply do not want to miss out on any of them.
 
I don't think the Xbone is that bad of system but forcing the Kinect and having the TV tuner are dumb options. I am sure they will have a few good exclusives like Titanfall although the reviews are mixed on that game. it is not my type of game and one big factor is that Sony has the exclusives of the type of games I like. I will take Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, and Quantic Dreams alone make the Playstation worthwhile. The few console exclusives that Microsoft had (i.e. Alan Wake) could be played on my PC.

Has anyone read any detail why the Xbone games are not in 1080p? I know most games are being played in some funky resolution like 900p or something like that. Does anyone have any technical insights to why it is limited? there are custom chips in the Xbone but all the specs I have seen show it should be able to play games in 1080p unless their is a bottleneck somewhere in the architecture. Is there anyone who could give a short summary to why they are having these limitations?

Dean
 
Actually, Titanfall isn't that good as everybody says it is. Also, the PS4 has a lot more better exclusives that are worth playing. I think it's simply superior and will stay like that for a few years!

I've been enjoying it on the PC, it's a nice breath of fresh air from the usual Call of Duty and Black Ops games, there needs to be more types of FPS's not just the ones we are used to.
I completely agree that the PS4 has much better exclusives.
 
I totally agree, the PS4 will kick Xbox but! The PS4 is designed with gamers in mind and there are some terrific games that are about to be released. According to me the XBox one is trying to be to many different things at the same time. It does not help you to buy something and then end-up using less than 50% of the available functions (that you have paid for).
 
Just look at Infamous Second Son or Killzone Shadowfall. Not only that the PS4 looks so good but its exclusives are a wonder of the God!
 
I don't think the Xbone is that bad of system but forcing the Kinect and having the TV tuner are dumb options. I am sure they will have a few good exclusives like Titanfall although the reviews are mixed on that game. it is not my type of game and one big factor is that Sony has the exclusives of the type of games I like. I will take Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, and Quantic Dreams alone make the Playstation worthwhile. The few console exclusives that Microsoft had (i.e. Alan Wake) could be played on my PC.

Has anyone read any detail why the Xbone games are not in 1080p? I know most games are being played in some funky resolution like 900p or something like that. Does anyone have any technical insights to why it is limited? there are custom chips in the Xbone but all the specs I have seen show it should be able to play games in 1080p unless their is a bottleneck somewhere in the architecture. Is there anyone who could give a short summary to why they are having these limitations?

Dean


Hi Dean,

I believe it's the rather weak graphics card and slower RAM that causes bottlenecks as devs have to try and get portions into the esRAM which is faster than DDR5 potentially but only 32MB in size.

As a result if you stress the graphics too much you get a horrible experience like screen tear and stuttering framrates.

The devs realised this and lowered the resolution to enable the game to run smoothly. This is why Titanfall is 792p not 1080p.

There were a lot of jokes about an Xbox 720P before the One came out and as a result MS desperately want games above 720p even if not by much!

There could still be some great exclusive games for the One but it's hardware is not very impressive at all!
 
Hi Dean,

I believe it's the rather weak graphics card and slower RAM that causes bottlenecks as devs have to try and get portions into the esRAM which is faster than DDR5 potentially but only 32MB in size.

As a result if you stress the graphics too much you get a horrible experience like screen tear and stuttering framrates.

The devs realised this and lowered the resolution to enable the game to run smoothly. This is why Titanfall is 792p not 1080p.

There were a lot of jokes about an Xbox 720P before the One came out and as a result MS desperately want games above 720p even if not by much!

There could still be some great exclusive games for the One but it's hardware is not very impressive at all!

I am not an Xbox fan but I thought the 360 was a solid system but the lack of a BD drive was a show stopper. I also don't like the way Microsoft sold different SKU's with or without the hard drives, and also sell the remotes with just alkaline batteries and then you have to buy the recharger kit, and then required the Xbox Gold membership for things you got free on the PS3. It just seemed they tried to nickel and dime people to death. I don't even want to get into the RROD problem especially on the early models.

However, the 360 was a solid console especially being only the 2nd console for Microsoft. I was really surprised that they tried the DRM and no used games which cost them a lot of customers even though they later retracted it.

Thanks for your response. It sounds like by having the esRAM (which is essentially a buffer) of only 32MB, that is the bottleneck. If they would have made 256MB or bigger then it probably would have improved performance greatly. I doo not believe the Xbone will age well because Microsoft has already said their racing game used 100A% of the systems capabilities. I assume Sony games will keep looking better as developers figure out how to program for it more efficiently. It sounds like the Xbone is going to have very little wiggle room to improve upon graphics. They will have some good exclusives but not nearly as many as Sony.

I think it is going to be hard for Microsoft to pick up new buyers for the Xbone as they will probably only be selling to the hardcore Xbox fanboys. I think it is a no brainer for anyone who does their due diligence in researching the consoles that the PS4 has the most for the money by far.

Nintendo struck lightning in a bottle last generation by creating a new casual gamer market. The problem is that the Wii U is closer to the PS3/360 in capabilities and I think they will be competing more against smart phones and tablets for the casual gamer market.

They will be people that buy the Wii U just for Zelda, Mario, and company but Nintendo keeps recycling the same games each generation. I believe it took the PS4 something like 2 months to outsell the Wii U sales in a year.

Dean
 
I think MS underestimated Sony as prior to launch people were speculating on 4GB DDR3 memory which would have been very poor indeed.

The move to use the fastest RAM in DDR5 is a masterstroke and the only bottlenecks we have is the speed of the hard drive in transferring data believe it or not!

Yeah 256MB would have given more parity in terms of RAM speed but don't forget our graphics card is roughly 50% more powerful.

I think unless you can't live without Gears Of War, Forza & Halo then the PS4 is the way to go.
 
I think MS underestimated Sony as prior to launch people were speculating on 4GB DDR3 memory which would have been very poor indeed.

The move to use the fastest RAM in DDR5 is a masterstroke and the only bottlenecks we have is the speed of the hard drive in transferring data believe it or not!

Yeah 256MB would have given more parity in terms of RAM speed but don't forget our graphics card is roughly 50% more powerful.

I think unless you can't live without Gears Of War, Forza & Halo then the PS4 is the way to go.

Agreed. I don't care for Forza and while Liked the original Halo and GOW, I have found those games to be stale now. It is very much like the Mass Effect series. I loved the first two games but the third one felt like more of the same. I especially find GOW to be too repetitive. This gets me back to the exclusives and this is why I think Sony is better because they have a lot of very unique exclusives. TLOU is not a typical third person adventure/shooter game and Uncharted remained fresh through the first three games although the third game was not as good as the first two. I think Infamous:SS (even though I have mixed feelings on this game), Quantic Dreams, etc. create a lot of fresh content. It is not like the third party games are not going to be there and we will get the superior version running in 1080p.

It is also worth noting that Sony has some custom stuff in the PS4. I have a PC that has a better GPU than the PS4 and is much faster but it will still cant play games as smoothly as some of the PS3 titles did so I expect developers to make the most of the PS4. No offense to PC gamers but the fact that everyone has a different box configuration makes it hard to program for and get the most out of. Console gaming is just the way to go IMO.

Dean
 
Actually, it has been already proved that the PS4 is superior to the Xbox One hardware wise.

Yes but Xbots were claiming their CPU was faster as it's been overclocked and they could get a performance boost by removing Kinnect.

The best part is Sony don't release CPU speed specs and this comparison shows the CPU is faster.

In favour of the PS4:

Faster CPU
Better graphics card (more processing units and shaders roughly 50% more than Xbone)
Unified 8GB GDDR5 memory vs 8GB DDR3 RAM
Better controllers with touchpad
Smaller and better looking
Best 1st part devs and indie games
PS+

So glad I went with Sony once again but this gen I think MS have made some very bad errors in their design and PR.

Sony FTW
 
I must say that the PS Plus is way better than the Xbox Live. Overall, the PS4 is actually superior to the Xbox One.
 
I've got both.. As it stands at the moment i think they are both superb consoles. Each does things different to the other. I love them both to be honest :)
 
I think people make too big of deal out of the 1080p resolution. However, I will say that I do think it is scary that Microsoft did not put better hardware into their systems. They could have done without the Kinect built in and the TV Tuner and put the money into faster RAM and larger cache. Just my 2 cents.
 
Yeah tell me about the money side of things ! LOL I also have a Vita, PS3 and Xbox360, and still play them all. What can i say.. gaming is my hobby when i'm home of an evening :) Not much on TV, and some of the games are more entertaining than films anyway..

Dunno what it is about PC's though i just can't warm to them. I'm such a tecno noob, i think i'm scared of them! LOL I'd rather buy a console where i don't have to worry about graphics cards, blah blah blah, as with consoles i can just plug it in and play :)

Re XB1 v PS4, a LOT of the negativity towards the Xb1 came from the rediculous policies they tried to implement. DRM etc. Then we have all this 1080p 60 fps stuff.

The way i look at it yes on paper the PS4 is a much better machine than the Xb1, but i didn't buy a console to look at technical specs. I bought a console to play games. Do you get Nintendo 3ds fans argue with Sony Vita fans over the games resoultions on those ?

For me it's all about the games, irrespective of platform. As long as they are good and work i love them all :)
 

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